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No Start - Alternator, Starter, Wiring
« on: April 21, 2010, 04:43:01 pm »
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Your Name: Tatum
Bus Number: 19001
Problem: After returning from my P.M. route, I shut the bus off to fuel up for tomorrow's run and it now refuses to start. No cranking sounds/turning over sounds at all, no headlights, no horn, etc.
Urgent (Y/N): Y
Preferred Spare: 18501
« Last Edit: April 28, 2010, 05:35:41 pm by Kodie »
Bus: 10901
Route ID: I

Schools Served:
- Georgetown High

- Glenwood Senior Center (Saturday 3:00 - P102)
- Green Valley Church (Sunday - P102)

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Re: 19001 Out of Service
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2010, 06:25:44 pm »
Well.. the batteries seem okay, however the alternator and the starter are both testing negative.
Bus: 10901
Route ID: I

Schools Served:
- Georgetown High

- Glenwood Senior Center (Saturday 3:00 - P102)
- Green Valley Church (Sunday - P102)

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Re: 19001 Out of Service
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2010, 08:31:52 pm »
Go ahead and take 18501 tomorrow, Tatum.
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Re: 19001 Out of Service
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2010, 03:49:44 pm »
There was some sort of short in the electrical system that fried the starter, the alternator, and burned up one of the wires leading to the start itself. I'll be picking up the new starter and alternator after my PM routes today. It's right along the way so I'm just gonna use 10901. (I pass the place on my way back)

Starter: $119.00

Alternator: 140 AMP - $134.00

I already have wire here that I can use to replace the one that burnt up. Some of the fuses will also have to be replaced.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2010, 03:52:43 pm by Kodie »
Bus: 10901
Route ID: I

Schools Served:
- Georgetown High

- Glenwood Senior Center (Saturday 3:00 - P102)
- Green Valley Church (Sunday - P102)

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Re: 19001 Out of Service
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2010, 11:38:55 pm »
How's it going?
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-Green Valley Church

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Re: 19001 Out of Service
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2010, 02:57:52 pm »
Sorry for the delay,  I had inspections to deal with.

I got the alternator and new starter put in, and replaced the burnt wire but it's still shorting out somewhere. It'll be a little bit longer, but I know you like that spare so you'll be just fine. ;)
Bus: 10901
Route ID: I

Schools Served:
- Georgetown High

- Glenwood Senior Center (Saturday 3:00 - P102)
- Green Valley Church (Sunday - P102)

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Re: 19001 Out of Service
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2010, 06:53:06 pm »
I'm gonna have to go through the wiring on this bus, because it's shorting out someplace.
Bus: 10901
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- Glenwood Senior Center (Saturday 3:00 - P102)
- Green Valley Church (Sunday - P102)

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Re: 19001 Out of Service
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2010, 06:58:31 pm »
Darn. That means that I'll get a few extra days with the Crown. :P
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-Green Valley Church

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Re: 19001 Out of Service
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2010, 06:59:59 pm »
Actually, Tatum if you could come out to the shop for a few moments I could maybe use your help.
Bus: 10901
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Schools Served:
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- Glenwood Senior Center (Saturday 3:00 - P102)
- Green Valley Church (Sunday - P102)

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Re: 19001 Out of Service
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2010, 07:05:37 pm »
I'm walking into the shop as I type this.
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-Proud owner of P931, 1993 Carpenter Coach RE

Routes:

-Route Package B (Mountain Creek Elementary)
-Green Valley Church

Trips:

Physics, Science, and Math Day (CA Great America)- 7DAS Bus #1

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Re: 19001 Out of Service
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2010, 07:11:36 pm »
Okay.. I'm gonna head to the back and look in the engine bay and I want you to turn the key when I say so. I need to see if I see smoke or sparks coming from anywhere.
Bus: 10901
Route ID: I

Schools Served:
- Georgetown High

- Glenwood Senior Center (Saturday 3:00 - P102)
- Green Valley Church (Sunday - P102)

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Re: 19001 Out of Service
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2010, 07:18:10 pm »
10-4
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-Proud owner of P931, 1993 Carpenter Coach RE

Routes:

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-Green Valley Church

Trips:

Physics, Science, and Math Day (CA Great America)- 7DAS Bus #1

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Re: 19001 Out of Service
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2010, 07:49:59 pm »
*Watches from office window

*Sees Kodie fiddling around in engine bay.
  Hears Detroit starter then Kodie yell: "son of a b*tch!, that wires not supposed to do that!"
  Sparks shoot out of 19001's engine bay.
  Runs out with phone/fire extinguisher, ready to call fire department so they can hit P101 again put out any possible fires.
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Re: 19001 Out of Service
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2010, 08:03:25 pm »
*Explosion*
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Re: 19001 Out of Service
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2010, 05:33:55 pm »
I've finally found the stubborn wire that was causing the trouble. It was rubbing on the engine because the plastic housing for the wire had **** and allowed it to come free. The heat melted the wire casing and caused problems. 19001 is back in service!

Wash 18501 real good inside and out and leave it in front of shop bay A for me please.
Bus: 10901
Route ID: I

Schools Served:
- Georgetown High

- Glenwood Senior Center (Saturday 3:00 - P102)
- Green Valley Church (Sunday - P102)